Comments on: Capture The Big Moves! (Updated 2023) https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=capture-the-big-moves Helping you Master EasyLanguage Thu, 29 Jun 2023 18:36:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Rich Sternal https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/#comments/1007553 Tue, 21 Jun 2022 11:03:56 +0000 http://systemtradersuccess.com/?p=153#comment-1007553 Jeff,

Always appreciate your articles. Been recently reading Billy Williams’ book, “Trading Chaos”, 1995. Point of book, can’t use linear models to interrupt non-linear systems. The use of fractals are a better approach.

Quote from book, pg. 134:

“The early 1980s produced the $3,000 black box systems, RSI, stochastics, sentiment indexes, and so on. Then Trade Station and other program developers made back testing and curve fitting a fun project for new traders. Mechanical systems were the rage — popular but not profitable.”

“Parametric statistics are not appropriate to examine nonlinear behavior.”

Whether or not one accepts Mr. Williams ideas is another matter but, it does provide food for thought.

Red

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By: Sal Mig https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/#comments/7108 Thu, 31 Jan 2019 21:46:34 +0000 http://systemtradersuccess.com/?p=153#comment-7108 Thank you for sharing this idea. I had been tinkering around with this weekly RSI strategy to use it when to go long with the daily RS(2) strategy. I realized it works pretty well when to be long the market and when to stay out of trying to get into long positions.

I was curious though if your back-testing software allows you to optimize the buy/sell threshold levels of 40 and 60?
Thank you again!

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By: Jeff Swanson https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/#comments/7107 Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:31:29 +0000 http://systemtradersuccess.com/?p=153#comment-7107 In reply to Ryan watson.

That’s a good idea. I’ll put that down as an idea for a future idea for another article. Until then remember, the code is available to download and test as you please. 🙂

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By: Jeff Swanson https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/#comments/7106 Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:29:48 +0000 http://systemtradersuccess.com/?p=153#comment-7106 In reply to Andy Shaffer.

Thanks for the great comments, Andy. A couple of points. While the strategy may not work well from 1966 to 1982, that is not much concern for me since I can only trade today. So I’m much more concerned about “lately”. While it’s true the longer the history, the more confidence I have, today is what matters. Next, I would not call the strategy presented a trading model. It’s more of an indicator to help gauge the overall market direction. Anyway, thanks again for the comments about your trading style and levels.

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By: Ryan watson https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/#comments/7105 Mon, 21 Jan 2019 20:24:35 +0000 http://systemtradersuccess.com/?p=153#comment-7105 How about testing on a broad range of country ETF’s? Good robustness check.

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By: Andy Shaffer https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/#comments/7104 Mon, 21 Jan 2019 20:05:40 +0000 http://systemtradersuccess.com/?p=153#comment-7104 This is a very interesting idea. And I really appreciate Jeff and what he does on his site! His research and development methodology is excellent!

However, if you use $INDU with this strategy going back 119 years, you’ll see there are very long periods of time that this is not useful AT ALL. The 1966 to 1982 period is particularly awful! The fundamental flaw in so many strategies is the age old, and incredibly outmoded, “lookback” period.

All my work is based on some new fundamentals:

* No Tradestation function calls. They are cost is prohibitive.
* It’s about THE LEVELS. There is no idea more important than this. Buy near support in uptrends and cycles. Sell near resistance in downtrends and cycles. Unless you use the “traditional” tools to discern support and resistance accurately, your strategies are destined to fail under different circumstances. A strategy that eventually fails or goes flat as the circumstances change is a flawed strategy (i.e. 1966 to 1982 in the above example). You may not have lost much money during that period, but would you be able to SIT through it the whole time? Of course not.
* Minimal, if any, “lookback” periods. I use cumulative and “break” processing. Moving average “lengths” are accumulated, and reset at appropriate times. As price “breaks”, levels are trailed up or down with a possible reset of the MAs (and I use VERY few MAs, as they are LAGGARDS! – IT’S ABOUT THE LEVELS!!!! ).

System Trading is like magic. The old hands will only show you enough to get you started, and it’s all OLD. You’ve GOT to break new ground, because they aren’t going to show you stuff the works CURRENTLY! Why would they share that? It’s proprietary! And you better believe they are willing to SELL it to you! 🙂

Andy Shaffer

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By: Jeff Swanson https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/#comments/7103 Wed, 06 Sep 2017 21:54:39 +0000 http://systemtradersuccess.com/?p=153#comment-7103 In reply to eric.

Thanks for the idea. I update the article’s last paragraph (“Where Are We Now?”) whenever the signal changes. As it stands today, the last update was July of 2016.

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By: eric https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/#comments/7102 Wed, 06 Sep 2017 01:59:19 +0000 http://systemtradersuccess.com/?p=153#comment-7102 How often do you update this indicator ? Can you put a “last updated” date on the page by the indicators ? thanks.

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By: Salvo https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/#comments/7101 Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:04:17 +0000 http://systemtradersuccess.com/?p=153#comment-7101 In reply to Jeff Swanson.

Jeff, thanks and excellent link which addresses what I had said.

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By: Jeff Swanson https://easylanguagemastery.com/indicators/capture-the-big-moves/#comments/7100 Tue, 01 Nov 2016 20:09:01 +0000 http://systemtradersuccess.com/?p=153#comment-7100 In reply to Salvo.

Salvo, you’ll be interested in reading http://systemtradersuccess.com/the-top-three-pitfalls-of-stock-and-etf-system-development/

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